end of discussion? wow, ur pretty heated man, a study of human bull****? you must be a lawyer. . . if you got a problem with the argument, don't post, its not your thread anyways. . .

anyways, if you don't know ****, you shouldn't talk ****. . . ur study of human bull**** doesnt make you a better driver or give you a better understanding of your car, it just makes you a bigger asshole on the board when you try to push it on other people. . .

this is a car forum, and sometimes a technical forum for people who know a thing or two about how they work, if you got a problem with that, check out www.ricerocket.com, they love guys like you with big mouths and no patience or tolerance for real knowledge.

Not a healthy argument? We haven't even so much as seen a dyno graph yet. Personally, I'll wait til all votes are in to end my speculation, and your vote doesnt count, slick.