True it makes sense to have a cam that has the primary/secondaries matched to the vtec lobe. But which cam will give a good idle at the same time whip some ass on the street? JunII,III, Toda b,cspec, Skunk2 stage1, 2,3, and Crower, etc. And is it true you can still use stock valve train with Jun cams? let me know what you think. Thanks a lot