Personally,I think the TSX is a great move by Honda, but they need to make it look more distinctive ! a pumped up civic with the TL front end and a bland rear end....ala G35 sedan theme going, c'mon Honda! do us right ! but dont get me wrong the price is on target!.......hopefully the TSX-S will be more promising with more power ...say 220-240 hp....slap 3.0 V6 in there and give it some balls...then I think it would fit the bill....to compete with the " Big Money Wasted car maker!.....peace