Originally posted by poysonivee
You haven't proven anything. No expert anywhere would argue that the MXV4 is a performance tire. It's not sold, nor advertised as one. For the purpose its built for, its the best at what it does.
And, BTW, my boyfriend is not just some "tire salesman" who talked to a couple of Civic owners. As I said before, go look at the website if you want a taste of the wide range of car lovers that they service. They are, hands down, THE performance tire and wheel specialists in Atlanta. And in my opinion, talking face-to-face with customers for 36 years is enough experience in my book to listen to.
My boyfriend wants to continue about this but I am tired of it... if you really want to argue the point with him, he told me to tell you it has terrible road force measurements, consistently requires more weight to balance than a michelin, is not built to as high a tolerance as a michelin, etc, etc.....
you boys, always needing to be right about crap... 
I've proven that the Potenza S-03 is a superior tire to anything in its class. You're right, the MXV4 isn't designed for performance. But again, what does that have to do with anything? Did you even read my post? I said the S-03's are quieter than the MXV4's, not handle better (which they obviously do, by alot).
I don't really give a damn about how hard it is to balance them or road force measurements, as I've never felt any sort of vibration from them. The build toleration comment is sort of last resort, it's not like the S-03's are falling apart or else people would say so. All I care about is ride comfort, noise comfort, wet handling, dry handling, and road feel. The S-03's give me the best performance I can get for a decent price.
Your Butler Tire website is very nice, filled with lots of pictures. Lots of Japanese import owners with poor taste. I'm sure your boyfriend is very knowledgeable and isn't talking out of his ass, but the fact is he has never done a side by side comparison in the same car testing different tires like tirerack.com. He seems to hold a grudge against tirerack for stealing business and the such, which is okay, but I find it hard to believe that he somehow discredits the website. I'm very partisan by nature, and I shopped for hours upon hours, poured through pages of owner reviews of tires, and finally decided on the S-03. I appreciate your help by trying to convince me to get different tires, but you have provided no evidence to convince me to switch other than testimonies which I haven't read/heard first hand. Thanks anyway though, and your boyfriend has a sweet job. Probably underpaid, but I would take a pay cut (well, for awhile) to look at Porsches and BMWs all day
