Ahhh, ok. Well is the y7 manual trans stiffener different from the auto stiffener? That's the magic answer I've been searching for as of today, lol. I downloaded that file you gave me the link to, and it was helpful. There's just one part in it that doesn't specify y7 m/t, or a/t. It specifies y5, and y8 m/t and a/t for the stiffeners, but not the y7 stiffeners! lol. So it makes me wonder if y7 stiffeners are used on both a/t and m/t! Could this be true?