ok i tried that. i left the front speakers plugged in, and i plugged the amp into the rear rcas. same thing. i also unplugged the fronts and tried both the front and rear outputs. still crap. im gonna switch the deck in the morning to my cheapo walmart deck that works so great in my crx and see if that solves the problem... it powers 4 pioneers nicely with a 250w amp. worst case ill just move the whole setup to the civic. sell the blau deck...