im on my second set since i bought the car (2)for the fronts, i never rotate then, i do now. i also got the tires flipped when i changed rims. i put on 17,000 miles since feb2002 till today. :ugh: thats alot of shiity miles. i need a beater but how do i tell what they are rated? what tires last a long time but i wont loose out on to much handling/gripping?