my payment for the z is about 125. i didnt sell my truck for that much, ony about 4000. quick sale. this came up fast cause this girl selling the car was leaving at the end of the week. i really got lucky. as for the TL im paying more than i want but its not to bad. im paying 420.00 but its only that high cause of my trade in vehicle value and i fell for the "extra" car lot bumper to bumper warranty. not really ballin but not in a bad situation...