I agree with Kazi.. on every point..

its so true that for the money you spend on a TL or whatever you will get a very basic bmw.. its more value for the money by far..

that has and always will be honda's and acura's goals. Now if you look at a damn NSX.. that **** is mad expensive.. cause they are capable of making such vehicles.. but what is the point.. there is more of a market for cars with good value then for cars with a badge.

look at the recent new cars coming out.. with more punch for the money.. its a trend that is hitting the auto industry and that is why BMW is now makin all these entry level cars also... just to compete.