Originally posted by MPM77
Anyhow, I am not going to make this another long winded post because you don't seem to read what I write anyway. Yes, there is a premium I agree. However, there are also advantages. They don't give you a rental, they give you a new demo to drive. Also, you say that the premium that MB charges is not merited. I gave you numerous examples of what you get and you just brush them off as "excessive options". Why? Because Acura doesn't offer them? Look around:closeup: other luxury car manufacturers offer some of these "excessive options". Also, I want you to put an RL next to an E-class and open/close all the doors. I guarantee the E-class will be more solid. Have you ever closed the sunroof on an RL. It like the accord, sounds like a plane landing on the roof. Not in a Benz. It's quiet and refined!
I never said I would take an RL over a E-class or 5 series. Hell, the 540 and M5 is the most perfect of all sedans. I've already stated the RL is an old dog in Honda's line.
You may have misinterpreted my definition of value. By the Honda/Acura's emphasis on value I mean features/price. The whatever value in a free demo or rental or "service" of MBs are diminishing values because the cost or premiums are to high to justify them as of being value.
How can you compare a TL - S to a 330 or C320? The TL rides like an 82 Monte Carlo dropped to the ground. Yes it handles good, but so does the 330 - but a much more comfortable ride. Oh and the torque steer on the TL-S is great!
Every magazine has put the TL-S alongside with the BMW 330. Your interpretation of the TL's handling is very exagerated.
Where did I draw a conclusion on One? :slap: I never made any inference to one person!
Your claim of Britney Spears with her Sebring. :slap:
I commented that if the next RL was a hybrid Honda would need to be very careful how it was marketed. Most people do not know much about hybrids and are very skeptical. I also said IMA in my opinion is not the optimal choice for a luxury auto. Unless the engine can deliver high performance at low RPM. On the other hand, Honda/Acura needs either awd or rwd to successfully compete in the current marketplace. With the current hp war going on FWD is not gonna cut it. I think this is a critical time for Honda and only time and execution will tell.
Similar doubts and skeptism were said about VTEC back in 1991 and look at where production model w/VVT has gone from there.