The survey was listed on http://finance.yahoo.com. However, it was a several weeks ago and I can not locate it.

Anyhow, I am not going to make this another long winded post because you don't seem to read what I write anyway. Yes, there is a premium I agree. However, there are also advantages. They don't give you a rental, they give you a new demo to drive. Also, you say that the premium that MB charges is not merited. I gave you numerous examples of what you get and you just brush them off as "excessive options". Why? Because Acura doesn't offer them? Look around:closeup: other luxury car manufacturers offer some of these "excessive options". Also, I want you to put an RL next to an E-class and open/close all the doors. I guarantee the E-class will be more solid. Have you ever closed the sunroof on an RL. It like the accord, sounds like a plane landing on the roof. Not in a Benz. It's quiet and refined!

How can you compare a TL - S to a 330 or C320? The TL rides like an 82 Monte Carlo dropped to the ground. Yes it handles good, but so does the 330 - but a much more comfortable ride. Oh and the torque steer on the TL-S is great!

Where did I draw a conclusion on One? :slap: I never made any inference to one person!

I could go on and on and on, but for the sake of everyone else in this thread I'll stop.

Getting back on the topic that began this bickering. Hybrid/IMA

I commented that if the next RL was a hybrid Honda would need to be very careful how it was marketed. Most people do not know much about hybrids and are very skeptical. I also said IMA in my opinion is not the optimal choice for a luxury auto. Unless the engine can deliver high performance at low RPM. On the other hand, Honda/Acura needs either awd or rwd to successfully compete in the current marketplace. With the current hp war going on FWD is not gonna cut it. I think this is a critical time for Honda and only time and execution will tell.

One last question, Why won't Honda let the cat out of the bag about future vehicles?