Originally posted by MPM77
Well if they are aimed at the premium in North America they must offer quality. If not, why would anyone pay the premium.
Perception. This is why you're paying for a VERY high premium in MB and BMWs. This is why you will never see a full size V8 RWD Chevy with all the bells and whistle selling for $50k. Hell, even that new $60k or something W8 VW Phaton is having criticims and doubts of its success because of the VW label.
Wow! You know how to research the prices of options on different cars! Yes, there is a premium to owning a MB/BMW, however, you’re not just buying the car, your also buying the experience! Lets see, take an RL in for service and get a song and a dance when you ask for a loaner. If you’re lucky they will give you an RSX, if not, it’s a trip to Enterprise rent a car for a Geo Metro.
So you're willing to pay thousands more for this extra "experience"? So you're calling paying $10k more for a MB a value because they can rent you a car that might cost somewhere along the lines of $40/day to rent a midsize. Holy fricking sht!!! What a VALUE!!!
Oh and if your trying to compare similarly equipped cars I think you need to add the following to the RL: Dual climate control, one touch windows, full size spare, infrared ignition switch, on board information (mpg/range/stopwatch/service interval, etc), 10-way power drivers seat, 10-way power passenger seat, etc. Oh that's right these things aren't offered on the RL!:bowdown:
Again, those are just excessive options that cost thousands more. The RL is for practical minded folks who wants a little bit of luxury at a value. Do they need dual climate an extra 2 way in their power seats? Probably not. My point was that Acura is a better value than BMW and MB. Compare the features/price of the TL-S to the BMW 330 and MB C320. You will get my point. :slap:
Learn how to read my friend before you get your panties in a bunch. :slap: I said "most" not all. Oh, and your huge sample size of TWO that you draw your conclusions from is completely indicative of your ignorance and has no statistical significance.
My intent was not to suggest that all millionaires wear $400 suites and shop at Sears. My point is that there are plenty of millionaires that shop for value and quality not for brand identity.
Hmm...so where's this "study" you speak of? I interact with multiple clients at the executive level on a business and personal base. I only laugh that you think thiee high 6 figures income earners with their million dollars homes shop at Sears and drive Camrys. :rofl:
You're so-called "study" is still full of BS. Can you imagine an executive driving to Sears in his limo to shop for a $400 suit?!?!? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I'm not doubting some people who makes a very comfortable income do shop at Sears or such stores like it, but not "most" you speak of. That's the most BS I've ever heard so far in this thread.
My sample has more weight than your so-called "study". :slap:
Again you draw your conclusions from a select few. The celebrities that you see on Cribs are young, just came into money and flaunt it. Most of them went from rags to riches and they have no clue. However, someone who has accumulated wealth over the better part of his or her life is usually more conservative.
You say I draw conclusion on select few, but you drew conclusion on ONE. :slap:
I'm sure the "more conservatives" millionares you speak of really live in middle class houses and drives around in Chevy Malibus and shop at Sears for their wardrobe.
Old school money will never buy Chevys and Dodges, nor will they ever shop at Sears for their wardrobes.
Do you honestly believe these people only shop at top line stores for everything? I've seen celebrities wearing GAP and Old Navy jeans and shirts. Do they buy these at Neimann Marcus? Or what about the Dickies brand, FUBU, Sean John, etc that a lot of rappers wear. These clothes are cheap. Last time I went to NM they did not carry those. However, Sears does!
Conveniently, now you're switching back to these "rags to riches" celebrities. And these rappers drives what kind of cars? Do they drive Camrys and Buicks or the bling bling Escalades and Bentleys. I believe most of the line of clothing you stated are their casual wears. I very much doubt you will see a $60 Fossil watch or a $400 Sears suit. More likely a $10k Rolex or $8k Armani suit. :slap:
I guess with your logic, Nordstrom, Neimann Marcus, Armani, Rolex, Mercedes, BMW, should all just go out of business, because even millioniars are not buying thier stuff. Everybody from top to bottom lives in middle class life.
We're getting way off track. Mercedes and BMW do not provide a higher or equal value to Acura. "Most" celebraties and rich people do NOT shop at Sears for clothes or buy $400 suits over custom tailored and name brands. "Most" millionares do NOT drive Sebrings over Mercedes and BMWs. If you think otherwise you're a fool. :slap: