competing with the hatches really isn't my point. In all honesty I don't think even the ludes or H22-Cords can really hang with the B18/20 hatches--just too much car to pull around. I want an N/A Accord solely to have a faster Accord then what it is now. I've driven plenty of turbo cars and to be honest the un-epected rush that can occur at times on higher boost systems can be un-nerving when driving to carve out a good line on some of the back roads. From my prelimanary pricing I looking at around 2500-3000.00 for an N?A set-up. This doesn't include any ECU or fuel mods just he engine itself. There is only soo much you can purchase for and engine N/A. Hey there aren't any good cams for F-series so looks like I'm good there I conting on most of the gains coming from full 1.7 jump in compresion and good cylinder head flow.