I think that everyone pretty much agrees that the TSX will be around 25-29k, especially with the Accord and subsequently the new TL/CLs being moved upmarket in terms of price and performance. Since the TSX is an Accord derivative meant for the US market I would find it difficult to believe that Acura/Honda would send it over here with any less HP than the NA Honda version. Look at other cars that have normal and luxury derivatives such as the A4/Passat Camry/ES or IS, etc... The luxury version uses the same engine (or similar) but always has more HP. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the RSX was in for a boost when it gets refreshed in 04/05. I think the TSX will come in at base 25k and top out around 29k w/o navi. This allows it some wiggle room between the current 03 Accord and the new 04 TL. In terms of performance it will again best the 03 Accord and probably end up slower than a TL. Again, I'm just basing this off a business standpoint. I mean, most ppl agree that Acura will have a tough time moving any TSXs if it comes at 200 hp with a sticker of 25k.