Originally Posted by
Jafro
Tark, You are doing it again. You are bridging huge enormous gaps by taking things people say out of context.
My point with the "you're not American" bit had nothing to do with Islam. You always make something out of nothing by taking shit out of context. loodboi stated his opinion about Bush, and really, for the love of God, what does anyone in Europe's opinion matter about the president of the United States. If they want to pay taxes, be a citizen and vote, well then fine... have an opinion. But I could care less about blaming Sarkozy for civil unrest in France or Tony Blair for long lines at Heathrow. Seriously. Do you think Europeans would appreciate Americans signing onto their Honda boards and trash-talking their leaders?
So this brings up another significant point. What does it mean when Europeans or Canadians trash talk Americans, inventing things they call facts, and lumping us all under one big opinionated umbrella of arrogance? Is that any different all of the Islamic people say that Americans do relating them to terrorists?
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It's no different at all. So if you don't want Americans to make that association, I suggest not blanketing all Americans with statements about them being ignorant, oppressive, or idiots that can't see the truth. That kind of ignorance breeds ignorance. My statement about not being American was a political statement. I don't give a fuck about what Europeans think about Americans. They don't have the freedoms that we do.
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About internationnal actions everyone's opinions has a value. I dont give a fuck what Sarkozy does to his own country. I do however care if Frnace decided to invade a country. or wage war on a abstract thing that will never conclude anything.
And where did i say all americans are ignorant? that they ALL beleive Islam in the devil?
Originally Posted by
Jafro
If you want my religious opinion, then chew on this.
I've been watching since 9/11 for one Islamic group to denounce people who kill other people in the name of Allah, who torture and oppress women, or those that carry out terrorist attacks. You know what? They're not doing it. But the fact that I have an open mind looking out for it means I have hope that they're not all like that. They all say they're not like that, but when shit goes down, they never denounce it.
If a bad opinion exists about Muslims, it's the Muslim's responsibility to fix it. It's not automatically America's or George Bush's fault and I'm sick and tired of that bullshit. The same goes for white people, black people, mexicans, men, women, chinese people, arabs, indians, russians, germans, french people, disabled people, christians, jews, wtf ever.
you're kidding me right? Pakistan (with one the most extremist government in the world) has joined forces with the US. They have a diplomatic agreement following the 9/11 attacks. Most Islamic country have conveid their sympathy following the attack. Tonnes of Islamic institutions do great things to help Women. look up foundation Like Aga Khan foundation. It's like the bigge NGO in the world. It builds hopitals, shcools, has many micro economic programs, help with women issues in places like Pakistan, Afganistan ect...