It's my family crest with some celtic knots around it. I am not happy with it yet but I am playing around with it. It is going to be more ornate than these sketches. Tell me what you guys think.



too much red overlapping in this one.



I like this better but now there may not be enough red.


There is going to be a lot more detail in the final product.

I am debating on whether or not I want the name in it.