Originally Posted by
Dweezel
True, but I like going in knowing the dealer's game plan. It provides the opportunity to negotiate even better terms.
With enough digging, it's often possible to find out the "buy" rates online. I've been successful finding them for BMW before. If you know the buy rates and all the fees, plug them into a lease calculator and you'll know what you should be paying at the buy rate. Negotiate from there.