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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by XScarAudio
http://accessat.c-net.us/test/template-3col.html

there ya go. I do it slightly different, but this example is OK. The only example I have right now is a page w/ 2 colunms. Basically, use float and the clear property, wrappers, and the clear property at the bottom.
Thats pretty much how I have mine set up.
Let me pack everything together and attach it to show you guys.

Originally Posted by ShaolinLueb
actually isnt IE the only company that has different rendering practices then opera, safari, and firefox? safari and firefox are spot on.
Basically. Opera and firefox(Not sure about safari) are pretty much the same. I think I experienced a little trouble between the two on my last site.
div's are the way to go, but w3 is stupid.

first frames were good they say. but then high school kids learned how to do it, so they move to tables. then high school kids learned how to program it. so now its div tags.

i think its a conspiracy by the W3 to try to keep jobs out of high schoolers. cause they realize html is so easy they are trying to complicate it beyond what it needs to be. xml i at. except for rss.

also with div tags you need to use positioning system, but i ie gave that stuff up after ie4. so i am confused a bit. one of the products we offer where i work copies website templates of sites. ever since this div thing, the templates have been a pain in the ass to copy and often dont turn out right.
Once I have it working correctly I need to figure out how I can make a template out of it. Basically link the files before and after the main content so the computer illiterate people at my work can update it easily.

Originally Posted by reno96teg
i don't think that's what he's saying, but i've also noticed this "tables bad, divs good" nonsense for a while now.

in real world scenarios, it ends up being a mix. there is no way you can convince me that it's possible to do everything in divs without turning your html into an unreadable, complicated mess. either that, or your pages are mindlessly simple.

to rule out an entire set of objects because of some nonsense mantra is ludicrous.

i do what i can to keep to divs, but once it's clear that i have a fight on my hands, i start looking at tables. i'd rather focus my energy on the more important code.

p.s. and divs often don't behave the same across different browsers either! :shhh:
Its best to stick as close as you can to divs. I was just reading some stuff about tables and divs. They said to try to keep tables for data and thats it.

Originally Posted by XScarAudio
Yeah, CSS has 3 ways to do stuff sometimes....finding the one that works universally for a specific property can be a PITA
I'm not looking forward to any cross browser issues. I worked on a small 2 pixel gap with the last one for a few weeks.

Originally Posted by reno96teg
once someone starts mouthing off about standards, or think it's possible to adhere entirely to the w3c, i immediately know they either have little experience, or haven't been challenged nearly enough.
I admit I don't have much experience. This will be my first site using mostly CSS. I just read up and do research a lot before I start working on it and try to follow the general practices of the community.
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