oh yeah im in no way trying to push people around here and say that they were starting an argument. i made that statement because i know when i talked to some people about this before none of them were agreeing with me and it caused a bit of a problem but then they heard the subs and were changed. questions and friendly suggestions are always welcome! i know there are subs out there that can handle much much more then a measely 1500 watts RMS each. but man talk about expensive.