I can't believe that i'm using my first post to defend a neon. about the reliability issues, i have two friends with neons. Friend #1 has about 90,000 miles on his with no major problems( in fact he has had less problems with his neon than i have had with my civic). Friend #2 was dumb enough to not do his first oil change for more than 17,000 miles. neons can be pretty reliable. as for the HP issues, dodge did under rate it's HP figures. my friend said it had something to do with insurance or something like that( not really sure about that). also from the factory you can get a 25, 50, or 75 HP upgrade that is covered by the warrenty. so we shouldn't look at the 223 whp as the end of the line. it's gonna be a powreful car...but i would never get one simply for the fact that my mission is to destroy my friend(#1)'s SRT-4 after he get's it.