Read it and weep bro. And it's all done with a td04 supposedly. And it's only being compared in straightline performance. Geez, don't get your panties in a bunch. Neon's aren't that bad. I've seen some REALLY fast one's. And I'm not biased either because I hate DSM with a passion. I just don't understand why Honda doesn't do anything to counter this. Instead they sell their 16 sec Si at the same price.

As for your Vspec comment, if you go back in history, American car producers have always underrated their cars performance. I don't know why but it was pretty common in the 68-71 muscle cars and the new LS1's. Even SCC said those numbers were to the wheels!