But Hilldog or Edwards are better? They'd just as soon pull out of Iraq like it never happened, let the middle eastern crazies nuke each other to death and give us a nice thick nuclear winter for a few years. I highly doubt Guiliani is going to keep milking the war like Bush but he probably won't pull out like a pornstar either. And Mitt is no more a flipper than any other candidate. Truth is you have to pick the lesser of the evils and Hillary or Edwards are certainly not the lesser. Obama possibly, but not the others.