Thanks yall. Sorry, yeah I misquoted didnt mean I was taking the entire ball joint out - just seperating it from to the lower control arm.

Just had a not-so-fun time knocking that out before, took a lot of pounding with a BFH. Course, that was on a rusty old jeep, so maybe the civic wont be as bad. 1st time is always the worst anyway, after you put it back together yourself its usually easier. so, I'm gonna forgo the whole suspension removal and and just do it the normal way. see how it goes...thanks