i cant beat that i got the sony DRU-830A about a month ago on sale at best buy. i use the sony dvd-r discs. they were on sale something like $22 or $24 for 100. they were not the dual layer discs. its a dual layer burner comes with nero but isnt light scribed. this burner works great. u can use 'shrink it' and DVDfab offers some online software too.