thanks for the info guys. i've found a couple used type-s but they seem to be JUST outside our price range. i'd prefer the v-6 accord but it seems like i'd have an easier time upgrading an i-4?? ahhh, who knows what i'll do. i'll probably wind up with the accord v-6 and make the best out of it unless the right acura falls in my lap.

thanks for the info. really appreciate it. been building trucks my whole life so this car thing is like being in a foreign country and without a translator. can't wait to get started though!!