I was thinking I'd get closer to 225 at the wheels with 8 pounds. That's a lot less than I expected. Hmmm. I think I may just try and get the GSR. I tried searching and I did find some answers to my questions, I just mainly wanted to hear opinions on the Turbo vtec vs Turbo non vtec. I can't put a vtec head on and not run vtec? I thought I could put one on just for better flow?? Anyhow, thanks guys. Oh yeah, I guess there's no way to know if the other owner has ragged it, but I guess it's a chance we all take when buying used cars. Anything you guys think that I should be looking for especially when looking at a GSR to see if it was abused?