well i called them in august looking for the fourth gen catback and its discontinued, they have already released the new model for a few cars(just go to the exmag page). you can look at the pictures and see they kept the polished tip, but now have a dull unfinished stainless steel for the muffler and piping... which they are quiet proud of. i think the black looked better, but at least it wont rust out as fast! they said they would call me when they release it, and they said about 2 months... this week tho ive been second guessing myself, for there is a chance i might try to set up a diy turbo using dsm parts and that would require a thicker diameter pipe.