actually that last post was the owner of the TYPE S not me..sorry for the confussion...Mr22na = my MR-2 2.2 non turbo untill i turboed it with a 3sgte swap...soon TwinTurbo camry V6... the prelude indeed lost to the 4 door GSR..the drive of the luder is a weekend track driver...quite frankly an honestly hes a sick driver...it was his beater car but it was very nice...im not hating on the lude i like it a lot only saying that its under powered for its wieght...theres no way that a lude can beat a type S either