Whatever, pay your money to race your stock ass cars. If you wanna get into racing then get into racing. I'm sorry you only make 6.75 an hour. If you can't afford it then get another hobby. a 14 second car is slow no matter what kind of car it is. If your are a serious enthusiast then great. It just burns me to see all these ricers lined up at the track talking **** about this mod and that mod when they run 17 second quarter miles. If you don't like my opinion then fine I could care less. But if you go to the track often and you have a slow car each time, then you are pathetic, plain and simple. I have much respect for the autcross scene but that type of racing takes a serious enthusiast to make civic competitive also.