i've seen pics of the apex n1 catback on the g3 integras and it runs above the control arm. however for the eg hatches, they run under the control arm. i don't know why they made it different like this. probably because the integra bumper is farther away from the suspension and the civic was too close for them to angle it properly. also the sideways angle on the civic is quite extreme. i have pics of it if anyone wants to see them.