Originally Posted by
Tobra
How about this Tark
If the Muslims put down their weapons, their would be no more violence in the Middle East
If the Israelis put down their weapons, their would be no more Israel
If you are an honest man, you will have to admit that this is true.
If not, well...have some more kool aid.
Tark, the problem, or one of them anyway, is that you get some Imam preaching hate at the Mosque, or a group of young, angry men who are yakking about Jihad against the great Satan, and the peaceful folks at the Mosque say nothing, even after a bunch of innocents turn up dead. This makes people think that all the Muslims are on the same team, even though this is plainly not the case, as evidenced by the relish with which they are killing each other all over the place. Whether it is in Iraq or Lebanon, the people that are getting hurt the most are all Muslims.
For evil to prevail, all that is required is for good men to do nothing. Where is the outrage from the Muslim community about all the murders being perpetrated in the name of the "Religion of Peace"? Oh, and the bit about them defending themselves from "Atheism" is utter BS, you will have to try a bit harder than that
Who is more to blame when an innocent Lebanese family gets vaporized?
1. The Israeli who pulled the trigger on the Laser guided bomb
or
2. The Hezbollah militant who has been shooting rockets as fast as he can from the upstairs apartment window and told the father of the family who got killed that he would kill his children in front of him if he tried to move.
You dont get it do you.. the Arabs are defending themself agaisnt the people that keep taking over their land. It is a known fact that in order for Israel to be created they had to get rid of the Arabs that owned the land.
THe Israelies people took over the arabs land. now the arab will not just give up, they will fight for their land back only problem is the arabs have no weapons... so they resort to terrorist activities. Yeah obviously YOU can come in and tell the Arabs "if you stop attcking us we will stop attacking you" but is that really the solution? i dont think so. All this does is push more Arabs to hate the US backed Israelies. and so more arabs will be willing to commit terrorist activities in order to get there land back(not that it will work).
But this is only in the Isreali conflict... there are many other comflict arround the world where the Muslim population is persicuted. And in most of the conflict can be traced back to England and USA. Iraq for example, why did the USA go to war with Iraq? what ever the reason(we dont even know anymore) they killed alot of civilians and many of the insurgents you see now are pissed at the US because of the chaos THEY have created. The insurgent arent jihadist at root... it's revenge and it's a fight to get power in the country.
that is what one of the main problems... The American see the muslims as just 1 group. They dont really adress the reasons the muslims are fighthing back in different part of the world. You all just blame it on the "Islamist Facism" but that is over simplifying the problem and you already know that in order to solve conflict you must understand what exacly is the cause of the problem. but guess what... the USA, Israel decides who is a terrorist group, and then they have a strict policy to not negotiate with the terrorist kind of easy if you ask me.
And here comes Jihadist they Supply these vary different people with the means to fight back, they supply them with crude weapons, with the financial aid, with planning and intelligence. They recrute these people that are pissed at the US and UK and give them the material they need to fight back.
The US and UK and Israel are not making it easy for muslims all arround the world to get up and codemn these terrorist... cause many of them Strongly disagrees with the actions these werstern worlds are doing.
And this will keep getting worse and worse.