I have 17" rims on my 92 civic hatch right now without a bodykit, and I must say that it looks like im flying. The car is so far from the ground. I just put them on 2 days ago. Before that, stock vx wheels. They are so much lighter, and I had my car literally on the ground. Now, its like 4 inches or so off the ground. I don't like it, but when you have a set of 17" black konig glides, it tends to take your mind off of the height. Also, when I get a bodykit, it will turn out perfect. I say nothing bigger than 15" wheels on an EG.