Originally Posted by fugabch
i am a driver. i like to use my skills to win races. and i have taken modded na cars and beat lower or improperly tuned turbos.
First, it takes more skill to drive a boosted car than it is an NA car being you have alot more going on and to worry about when racing. And have you beaten any PROPERLY built turbos?, seemed to have left that out..
Originally Posted by fugabch
price to turbo a civic $1500-3500, price to mod a na civic 800-2250
Try a turbo setup starting under 1000. na tuning for a d-series ANYTHING, $1500+
Originally Posted by fugabch
i am not knocking the turbo setup, but locally there are a lot of good cars being passed up for awards at shows and competitions simply because they are turboed. seems here lately there are alot of judges looking down their noses.
Or maybe just about every other featured car (if not a majority of them) in magazines or at shows are usually highly modified forced induction setups. If they're turbo setup isnt being acknowledged then perhaps its the design or efficiency of the actual build being of poor quality, or other aspects of their cars styling that get them overseen.
Originally Posted by fugabch
another thing is, there are alot of cats running hondas and other imports around here that wont race a turbo car. all they have is exhaust, rims (which add at least 500HP) nice paint, maybe cold air, and that is the extent of them
What!? how does an exhaust, RIMS, and a CAI add 500hp? unless you're talking about your must-suck-stangs again which eat gas like mad and are uber-inefficient when compared to these vtecs.
Originally Posted by fugabch
i want to see what i can build for under 3 grand. and i want to pull up beside one of these guys on the interstate and blow the doors off, and get accused of having turbo,
*sigh* first off with 3 grand you will be KEEPING UP with them, and then secondly, they will laugh and wonder why you spent so much to lose a race.
Originally Posted by fugabch
and alot of the people around here that can afford turbo, cant afford to maintain it. some get the main components and try to rig the rest and wonder why the performance isnt there, or why other parts are failing every week.
Turbos aren't hard to maintain, superchargers are. If you 'rig' anything on a car it's usually in quick-bad judgement, and I frown upon any 'rigging' of a car being you trust your life to it at ridiculous speeds. And it's up to them buying the crappy parts or something, I haven't heard of that problem, unless maybe they're tuning it improperly??
If you want to NA tune a VTEC, get a B, H, or F series engine, or be prepared for alot of work and money that in the long run you will feel was wasted when these turbo cars you hate so much pull away from you.
Originally Posted by fugabch
i dont know squat about turbos
Yeah, looks like it..