see thats the thing that i am trying to figure out. i know a stock civic dx is 106HP but with everything i have on and am putting into the motor my goal is around 200 or so. the only reason that i am looking doing the 16g is because the thing is identical to my 14b just a little bigger turbines and it will bolt right in place. we still have the turbo setup on the car and all we are trying to do is have a new one and unbolt the old one and put new one in and go at it.