ur friend is obviously an idiot. basing opinions off of what a magazine says is idiotic. gm's ecotech piece of shit made over 1200whp in a drag car. b18's are also known to be very high in hp. are they built? yes. is the 4g63 built from the factory, yes, to an extent. to say an evo enbgine wil always be more powerful then a honda is like saying that andre the giant could kick bruse lee's ass, its an ignorant assumption. besides. any street car over 450hp is just not reliable. could u imagine driving a 500whp civic around town or a 500whp evo to just cruz to the grocery store? i didnt think so, its just not smart