I was at a larger dealership this past Friday. The dealer wanted about 19,500 for the base RSX, and worked out approximately 22,000 for the type-s. Both these were the manual versions, and yes they were 02's and after the next shipment of 02's which this dealer was getting delivered in about 3 weeks, he said they will all be 03's. Which could provide for further discount on left-over 02's if you're lucky enough to find one. He said he might (meaning can) be able to work those numbers a little more... hope thats useful?:thumbup: