Originally Posted by Wow Civic
>>>>>Wow Civic, you're like the Iraqi Minister of Information. Baghdad is burning and you're claiming victory.
Again. Resorting to sidetracked off the cuff remarks instead of addressing my points. Benjie, instead of refusing to accept anything that may object to your ideology, why don't you open your mind and accept that there are other possibilities? Honestly, I feel like I'm trying to explain my points to a ham sandwich when you come at me with some idiotic retort like that.
I've responded to your claims about the ACLU repeatedly. At issue is the fact that you don't really care about whats right or wrong, and you don't really feel a moral obligation to defend Christianity. All you're really interested in is attacking anything liberal.
I don't refuse to accept anything that disagrees with my ideology. I read your point of view and found that it is without merit. Further, I find that you cloak your desire to denegrate anything liberal in a phony altruism. You have proven that you don't really understand why federal law is the way that it is, and you don't understand that legal issues are more complex than they first seem. I will be happy to give an example.
You think that the ACLU is a bunch of baby killers because they defended in court a woman who used cocaine while pregnant. Using cocaine while pregnant is incredibly stupid and reckless and, as cocaine is already an illegal drug, she could be punished under existing drug laws. The prosecutor in that case attempted to ban abortion by proxy of reckless endangerment laws.
I see a sad case of a cokehead being used by the prosecutor to try and sneak in a backdoor ban on abortion. You don't bother to look past the sad case of a woman who did a stupid thing. There's a bigger picture and you don't acknowledge it. Maybe you honestly don't understand it.
So why should I accept your ideology over mine? My opinion is more informed than yours.
Originally Posted by Wow Civic
>>>>You said in another thread that you would have to "lower my sense of morality down to a sociopath's to" understand my point of view.
Benjie, I said I would have to "lower my sense of morality down to a sociopath's to" understand the ideology that abortion is okay while capital punishment is wrong. I wasn't intentionally specifying anyone in that statement. I'm sorry if your guilty conscience is working itself up again.
You said that I was "Resorting to sidetracked off the cuff remarks instead of addressing my points."
You also said "I'm sorry if your guilty conscience is working itself up again."
You don't really think I have a guilty conscience. You're just afraid of owning your words. You're pathetic.
Originally Posted by Wow Civic
Its like the time you thought I called you a "psycho paranoid liberal." This was my statement:
God look at me, I even feel the need to defend my examples or come under attack from psycho paranoid liberals. I did not specify you. I could have been addressing Kestrel, Qtiger, or any other member of this forum. I apologize for your misinterpretation. ...Speaking of paranoia (Now that was intentional)

Yeah, lets talk about paranoid for a minute. You, an alleged agnostic, are staunchly defending a religion in which you do not believe against an attack that does not exist. Is that a little embarassing for you? It ought to be.