Ok this thread is pissing me off, mostly because I'm a K guy and fully believe in them, and because there is a lot of shit talking, no knowledge, nonsense in this thread.
Originally Posted by Redcivic
Build what you want but spending 8k to get a car that will get whooped buy anything with over 200Hp is just lame anyway you look at it. I realize you probably don't like hearing the critics but learn to deal with it. A civic with a K series is still slow in my book. It's a Civic, I doubt your upside down on it. Sell it, and get a black SI with some black rims with a chrome lip, and dump a couple of grand into it. Viola, you have a faster "Knight Rider"! Trust me, I have done more engine swaps than you want to know and it's not something to do just because you have a hair up your ass to be "different". I hope all goes well, but please let us know how it feels to drive a poorly designed RSX when you are done. Because that is about what you will end up with.
ok, a 200whp K series civic will be fast as shit. It would easily smoke the shit out of a SRT-4. Why switch to an SI, they are much heavier than the 2dr lx.... almost 300lbs.
the 2005 2dr lx weighs in at 2536
the 2005 rsx-s weighs in at 2840
Tell me how this swapped car is gonna be slower?
plus he has the upside, he now has a civic, with an engine that is actually better than the rsx-s engine, and his car weighs 300lbs less.... talk about a sleeper...
THe civic chassis is a great chassis for drag racing with K series, regardless of generation
Originally Posted by aslowdelsol
TWM 52 throttle bodies, K-Pro reprogrammed OEM ECU, Burns stainless 4-1 header, those items are some of the items I recommend. If you planning doing something more simple, for instance, my friend just added headers, intake, and tuned the car with hondata K-Pro and was able to run a quarter mile in his RSX-S 13.7 I still can't believe it but wish I had a K swap. Have fun building your car the way you want to regardless of what anyone else thinks. Good luck = )
ITB's aren't the way to go with K series, Hayward performance is making an intake manifold that outperforms ITB's, even the 54mm. Kpro is a must, actually its almost required, although he can get around it. Burns headers really aren't the greatest for K series, DTRfab and a few others are making a lot more power. The new Lovfab one is supposed to be quite nice but no dyno's yet.
13.7 in a 2721lb rsx-s, and this engine would be better than that engine, and have shorter final drive and lsd. Now how the hell can you guys call this swap "not worth it"??
I would be supprised if he couldn't get into the 12's on slicks with minor weight reduction. (if he is a good driver)
Originally Posted by JDMtunedEK
i'm sorry for sounding rude. but everyone i know in idaho that has owned an srt-4 has had nothing but problems with them. and i know like 4-5 people personally(that have owned them). don't start knocking on where i live. who gives a shit where i live? that has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
and its still a neon. no matter how hard you try to play it off.
I agree. They are decent for the money (although a swapped civic is assloads cheaper), but the quality control with dodge is ridiculous. I have 2 friends with blown srt-4 engines. One was running ass loads of boost, but one was actually on stock boost..
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ok, the post by sherwood is the one that pushed my buttons. I'm gonna disect the cons for you guys.
Originally Posted by sherwood
Cons:
-the car wont be nearly as fast as car the motor came from
his civic weighs a shitload less than an rsx, he is getting an ITR engine, which is better than the rsx engine, and the trans will be tons better. How will the car not be nearly as fast as the car the motor came from???
Originally Posted by sherwood
-the car wont handle anywhere near as good
Handling, well shit, he has 18's, do you think he cares about having perfect handling? even in that case, his suspension setup is designed for his car, and he can upgrade it to be better than rsx-s suspension if he desires to do so. It's not like the 4door is cursed to forever have horrible suspension
The rsx-s suspension sucks balls anyways, and honda knows this, thats why the next generation is switching back to a design similar to double wishbone.
Originally Posted by sherwood
-he'll be putting in alot of money to buy a newer motor, and then swap it in to a civic that it wasnt designed to be put in (dont the non-si's use d-series still?)
this one is the funniest to me. Isn't that what every single person on this damn website desires to do? buy a newer motor, put it in a cheaper car, and have a fast car?
Our older civics weren't designed for K series either, and USDM EF's weren't designed for B series. What makes this any different? Why would this swap be a bad idea?
When swapping you use the subframe from the K20 powered car so your front end will be stiffened properly.
Originally Posted by sherwood
-loss of resale value
any modding of any car results in this. Gotta pay to play sir
Originally Posted by sherwood
-loss of all factory drivetrain warantees possiibly all warantees
This is your one valid reason, seeing his car is so new.
Originally Posted by sherwood
honestly, if he has money on the brain he should spend the 8k elsewhere or invest it.
I didn't create this post to flame or start any arguements, I'm just upset at the lack of knowledge and actual information in this thread.
It seems like one person said it wasn't worth it, and then everybody jumped on the anti-k-swap bandwagon, and somehow it ended up to be this pile of shit thread of useless information
/CLOSE THREAD