unplugged the rcas and the remote wire...pulled the cars audio fuse. waited. put it back in. no sound through the factory speakers still. as far as something coming a loose or grounding out the shop will have to check that on monday...but i highly doubt it since they quit as soon as the power wire was attached to the battery. no warranty on the cd player...bought it used. only got to hear it for about 30 minutes...the time it took me to get from the shop back home and connect the power wire. this is really frustrating vpuppy and i appreciate all your help. dont give up on it. please keep checkin this thread.