Yeah dude i hear you. Doesnt matter what other people think, just let em do what they want. Its just such an assault on the senses to see people doing that to their cars and trying to act like theyre the ****. their idea of cool is fartcan+vtec emblem+accord type R sticker= retarded fast. I know of one guy that I have huge respect for. Total sleeper civic hatch. stock everything on the outside, and according to him 700 hp under the hood. since hes running 10s i would tend to believe him. Once again show me some serious cars so that I know that theres more than ricers driving hondas.