Originally Posted by Troopa-R
I would argue they have been doing this relatively well. The Pontiac G6,
Compared to???
Originally Posted by Troopa-R
Solstice, Saturn Sky, Chevy Aveo.
Saturn what???
Originally Posted by Troopa-R
Buick Lucerne is definately a strong Lexus ES fighter and the plans to turn Saturn into Opel's US operation is a solid one.
HAHAHAHA, it doesn't hold a candle to the ES, not even to last gen Avalon, never mind, not even to first gen Avalon. I got sales numbers to prove that
Originally Posted by Troopa-R
GM's problem isn't building cars that can compete. It also isn't an issue of quality, as Chevy, Cadillac, and Buick regularly trump Toyota in the IQS. GM's problem is a bad reputation among consumers. We have a huge segment of the population that has been brainwashed into this "Toyota, Honda, or Nothing" mentality.
GM earned their reputation
Originally Posted by Troopa-R
Honda and Toyota can keep milking these same tired cars, don't really even try, and they fly off the lots while GM (and Ford) need to take a page from Chrysler's playbook and make American cars. Right now, they're competing with a bunch of really well made Japanese clones.
They do not have a quality "bread & butter" vehicle that could compare to Accord, Camry, Atima, Civic or Corolla. The Malibu and Impala are such failtures, it's not even funny.
Originally Posted by Troopa-R
Step into a European car, you know you're in a European car. Step into a Japanese car, you know you're in a Japanese car. GM and Ford need to rediscover what the American car is. It's not a tight handling GT built for autobahn speeds or a small and efficient gadget-and-gizmo-mobile with 40 cupholders. Strong and imposing design, big on power, comfortable and roomy. It's what they've been doing all along with their SUVs but never thought to do with their cars.
No, the era of American Cars is over, nobody wants mushy slushy cars with king size coach for a drivers seat. People want refined cars, and unfortunately, besides the Corvette, there is not a single refined American car. And even the Corvette must do away with the pushrod.