Well, I have more admiration for people who build their own stuff and then it rips apart SRT's and EVO's and STI's and stuff. I mean that is jsut me. I think it takes more thoguht to do a turbo type r than jsut go out and buy a EVO. If you really want the EVO 8, jsut wait till the EVO 9 comes out. It will be out shortly. I mean SCHMOO's car is sickly fast.