ya, full race is a fucking rip off. anyone willing to pay that is retarded. there are lots of people that re making manifolds that are cheaper then that. LSD motorsports, BMC race, and lots of backyard welders. Im getting a tubular style built for my b with an external flange, t3 flange all in stainless for 260. just look around. to hell with full race, people that pay for that also pay for stupid shit like hondata and 1000 dollar "JDM" exhaust systems