not that they would fit on my car, but I don't see what the big deal is with knockoff rims? I saw the thread on honda-tech and people were going nuts on that thread. not everyone can afford the real thing so they go with a cheaper more affordable option. Rota is just smart enough to fill that demand of people that don't have a lot of money but want the looks. thats capitalism at its finest, giving people what they want at a competitive price. its just like the knockoff purses that every woman has. they know its a knockoff, but they really dig the style. I guess I don't understand why people get mad about knockoff rims? people have been ripping off rim designs for a long time.