Yea no key even in the ignition.... I noticed the temp sensor needle in the dash cluster never gets to the middle where I would assume normal operating tempature is so I am thinking the thermostat is stuck open and possibly the water temp sensor is bad which I believe sends the signal to the fans to turn on at certain temps. Still new to hondas so I don't know if this is right but on my nissan that is how it works. Anyone have any input please post up.