thanks, I wouldnt mind 16's either, but more money to the block. I have to re-hone it and re-ring it again. 1 quart for every 200 miles or so! BTW I have a gsr block for sale in the northern Va. area if anyone is interested. I need to sell it for $700 which is what i got it for. I dont want to make any money off it, I just want to make it back! I've had it for about a week. It has the oil return line bung on the oil pan welded in already. Stock besides that. (complete '99)