i just wanted to say thanks to all who posted any brake pad/rotor replacement threads because they really helped out A LOT. i am relatively new to the honda world and i just did my first unassisted brake pad and rotor replacement. i basically followed the detailed instructions that were provided under the "online resources" section and the whole thing went smoothly. of course, it complimented the manual well, but having this site to refer back to was probably the single, most advantageous tool i ever had at my fingertips. i log on most days just looking for useful information that i may need for the future and i am happy to say that most of the time, it does. thanks again to everyone that basically helped me do my own civic repairs. peace...