those are included in the & such the point i was making was that they don't just spray everything w/ black primer. but if a shop buys a new OEM bumper, lip, or spoiler they come unprimered. just bare ABS.

i really only made a comment in the first place because rogue's attitude was bothering me. i don't think it was appropriate to attack papi_jay the way he did. if he'd been nice... iwould have let his errogence slide