If you're concerned about the Honda a/t - why not get the 6 speed? And if you're trying to decide between a Camry and an Accord, I'd be concerned about the infamous Toyota oil sludge problem that affects both their 4 cyl and 6 cyl engines. They reluctantly are picking up the tab to repair/replace those engines in the Camry, but only after consumer groups and pukehead lawyers went after them. Don't know details/don't really care, because Toyotas are far from favs of mine. My sisters' Corolla engine died with less than 70k miles due to the same oil sludge issue and she had to threaten Toyota and the dealer with a lawsuit if they didn't repair the engine. Eventually they agreed, but it got ugly, 'cause my sister is a mean old witch.