so, you're saying that most of the 41,834 members (884 people currently viewing the board right now) are non-honda owners? just because there are quite a few regular basement dwellers on here that don't have hondas or acuras doesn't mean that the majority of the people that come here aren't owners of a honda or acura. most normal people expect to see hondas or acuras when coming to a website whose name is "honda-acura.net". but maybe that's just my opinion.